Episode 4 – The Incredibles

The Incredibles, four of them ready to fight.

Darren Peterson and Matt Robison talk about the 2004 Pixar movie, The Incredibles. Listen to the very end for an easter egg of monumental proportions.

Some of the topics discussed: the timelessness of the movie versus other superhero movies, the mundane stuff of everyday life that is seamlessly mixed with the fantastic, the movie’s relationship to James Bond, how human hair almost sunk Pixar, the body count for the heroes, what the upcoming sequel might be about, and the theme of identity and how we are not the autonomous individuals we like to think.

The volcano base (complete with a rocket of its own) from You Only Live Twice that was referenced in the podcast.

SPECTRE volcano base - James Bond movie

Here is the Goldfinger main theme:


Compare it to the music during the Kronos scene. This is the track called Kronos Unveiled:

What I wish I would have said during the podcast:

  • We give up some of our autonomy so society can actually work. We are not 100% self-determining individuals. You didn’t choose your family. You didn’t choose your name. Those are parts of your identity that come from outside yourself. And that’s good.
  • The identities of Batman and Superman are also major themes throughout their stories. But they are flipped. Superman is really Clark Kent. Superman is just a name. But Bruce Wayne is really Batman. His public persona is the real mask.
  • Elastigirl tells the kids “Your identity is your most valuable possession” before handing them masks. This is ironic. Violet has always hidden her secret identity behind her hair, but now she does so with a mask. Once she figures out who she really is, she knows that its OK to hide that part of her identity, but she didn’t have to be ashamed.

About Darren:

By night Darren is a jazz saxophonist and science fiction aficionado. By day, he’s a mild mannered project manager, father of six and husband of one.

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